LS430 Diagnosis Opinion

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10/14/2019 at 15:25 • Filed to: None

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On a scale of “Full of garbage” to “I only work on Chevy’s”, how off does this diagnosis sound:

Long story short, the LS430 has been quite the problem child, proving that service records mean nothing, and it just comes down to luck. The latest problem may be the fatal one: it was diagnosed as a spun rod bearing. Here is the thing though, nothing lines up to that diagnosis.

1. The starter was just changed, the mechanic that did it said some of the connectors looked brittle.

2. What happened: My dad left Dollar General and the VSC light flashed, then went away. About a mile later, the dash lights went wild, then it just completely died.

2. The mechanic says the piston hit a plug. That sounds more like the timing belt snapping, but still doesn’t line up with what happened. And maybe it’s different in interference engines, but from what I’ve gathered, spun bearings don’t usually mean piston munching.

4. The mechanic didn’t want to work on it.

All of this just sounds a bit off, am I wrong?

Update: The plug that was “smacked”. I’ve never seen one that wasn’t just destroyed.

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DISCUSSION (18)


Kinja'd!!! Ready for an adventure! > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies
10/14/2019 at 15:40

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Like a full bubble off plumb....maybe check the battery connec tions, they get dirty and computers get wacky. They need the electricals to flow easy...battery posts, grounds hookups, all of them you can see...


Kinja'd!!! Michael > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies
10/14/2019 at 15:46

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I’ve hit a plug with a piston when I spun a bearing.

Think about it - T he piston very nearly gets to the plug, but doesn’t. If the rod bearing goes out for lunch, the connecting rod can move up and down on that crank journal - if that extends the piston that much further towards the head, it can whack the plug but not necessarily a valve.

Or, your mechanic is full of shit


Kinja'd!!! Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > Michael
10/14/2019 at 15:48

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I’ll update with pics, but there are two pictures with the plug, and if it was smacked, it was more of a gentle massage. It just looks like whoever touched it last pressed the gap out. 


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10/14/2019 at 15:54

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Your mechanic doesn’t understand electricity met hinks. I bet something got shorted during starter change by not disconnecting the battery. Are there engine noises? I'm not saying your guy is wrong, but I would be shocked if he's right.


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10/14/2019 at 15:59

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Two different mechanics. The one that did the starter did it about 1000 mile ago. They’ve generally been quite good, the spun bearing diagnosis   came from an emergency “need it now” shop.


Kinja'd!!! Michael > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies
10/14/2019 at 16:04

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A spun rod bearing would have a characteristic noise.

Get a $2 plug to replace that one, if it fires without knocking see how far luck can take you.

Or look at the dipstick and see if it has that metallic sheen of aluminum/steel plus oil


Kinja'd!!! Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > Michael
10/14/2019 at 16:06

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The kicker is that it is  completely dead AFAIK, which is what really raised some red flags. 


Kinja'd!!! Michael > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies
10/14/2019 at 16:12

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Well, here’s a fun fact

Your starter is in the V valley, under the intake

Mechanic #1 had an opportunity to mess with:

Intake Manifold

Intake Manifold Gaskets

Throttle body

Intake

drop a bolt into the intake ports

forget to reconnect:

MAF sensor

Throttle DBW control

Fuel pressure regulator vacuum

Brake booster vacuum

PCV vacuum

Numerous ground wires

fail to tighten main power to starter

fail to tighten battery cables


Kinja'd!!! Michael > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies
10/14/2019 at 16:14

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By the picture, that plug was dropped when he pulled it out

If a piston had its way with it, all the carbon would be knocked off


Kinja'd!!! Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > Michael
10/14/2019 at 16:21

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And it would likely be destroyed. Dropped is my theory. 


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10/14/2019 at 17:38

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Gotcha. Emergency shop is the one I'm concerned about then. I'd go back to the first and have them look at it. Don't blame them obviously, it may not be anything they did.


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10/14/2019 at 18:00

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My dad is just bringing it back in pieces, we will search for things from there.


Kinja'd!!! AMGtech - now with more recalls! > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies
10/14/2019 at 18:09

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Oh fun. Let us know what you figure out.


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10/14/2019 at 18:24

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Worst case, 3UZ’s aren’t uncommon, and sp inning a beari ng on one is a lottery chance.


Kinja'd!!! sony1492 > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies
10/14/2019 at 18:47

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Having just went through this on a 1uz, a spun rod bearing wont stop the engine from starting or trying to start. If the car wont crank, then try turning it over by hand, if it wont then you have a serious issue if it does then its probably something battery related.

Snapped timing belt sounds waaaaay more likely then spun bearing on an unopened motor


Kinja'd!!! 66P1800inpieces > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies
10/14/2019 at 18:52

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+1


Kinja'd!!! RacinBob > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies
10/14/2019 at 20:09

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I agree with either the timing belt or that something went through the intake and through the engine. See if it turns over. 


Kinja'd!!! RacinBob > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies
10/14/2019 at 20:13

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